Political Commentary and Opinion
Victoria shows "nice" attitude over drug ads, is just outright political propaganda
Are these drug addled socialists off their rocker, or on drugs themselves?
Dick Freeman
Editorial Feature
FC On Line
Feb. 6th, 2011
I don't know about you, but it seems once again what we are seeing in Victoria is more misguided nonsense coming forward, this time it's an Ad' being used about drug users.
We all heard about the free drugs and booze scam that the City of Victoria was pushing last week, including those working in health care and in UBC and others, who are all wanting to help promote more political propaganda to cater to the drug users in Victoria. Now what we are seeing is an Ad that says "nice people do drugs". Should we be tolerant towards drug users when it comes to our children and their safety?

When they should being saying:


The ads were too controversial for a transit company in England, who pulled the "Nice People Take Drugs" banners from the sides of their buses. However, the City of Victoria says it will use the tagline for its Anti-Stigma Week in order to draw attention to issues around drug use.
This mixed signal being shown in an Ad' or flyer that will be handed out does nothing but incourage drug use and sales in Victoria, which doesn't fool all that many people, while at the same time expects people to be tolerant of drug users on the streets. Most people are already tolerant towards street people, drug dealers, crack heads and junkies, wondering around in our communitys, who's whole lives too often evolves around using unregulated drugs, like it is some sort of new socialist right, dug out of some old subversive socialist handbook, packaged in a tolerance agenda, spread far and wide on the streets, as a way to stop drug use

West Shore RCMP Const. Stew MacMillan, who is a DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) instructor says that the slogan might be "somewhat confusing" for young students who are taught to resist involvement in drugs. "They might think, 'I'm a nice person so I can take drugs.' But, hopefully, they will make their decision based on more than one statement," he said, adding the DARE program teaches tolerance.

The tagline could be another opportunity to discuss drug use with children, Victoria School District Superintendent John Gaiptman said. "I'm not worried that a student seeing that statement will think, 'Well, it's OK for me to engage in drugs.' I hope that we've done so much drug education that a tagline isn't going to change someone's opinion."

Superintend John Gaiptman is out right wrong in his belief, as children will think it is socially acceptable to abuse drugs, as those children are susceptible to these kinds of Ad’s that are in reality propaganda when it comes to the use of drugs, and he should know better.

Should we also be tolerant of those elected in government who misuse tax money? How about alittle tolerance for police corruption and abuse of our law? Is it ok to shove this type of new socialist agenda down the throats of families who try to teach their children common sense, morals and values about drug abuse? I don't think it is, and i'll bet i'm in the majority! If you want to change the statutes then do so, but don't send mixed messages about tolerance to parents for things you have declared illegal.
We already have enough of those from police and politicians, so adding more will not fix anything, and may make things worse.
Should we also be tolerant of those drug users and street people smashing out your car window, while those of you parents who can’t afford to pay ICBC the 300 dollar deducable be tolerant about that. Should people be tolerant because the cost of living gone up, as well as food prices so your children can eat. Should we be tolerant because your kids needed to get another bike for school, because those bikes were stolen by some drug user, street person and am I to be tolerant for that.
What about the City Hall paying out to familys who had crime and violence used on them by drug users and street people, for all the damage they caused to home owners, since drug addled socialists misfits say we all need to be tolerant...
Maybe City Hall should be tolerent in upholding the drug laws instead of ignoring them.
Should we also be tolerant of drug users or street people when one of them murdered a 15 year old boy, who got stabbed and dies at a bus stop because of drug users and those running loose on the streets with mental illness.
Did it save that boys life, by being tolerant?
I would argue that tolerance is only acceptable when the recognition of certain absolute moral standards has been established. as there are limits to what is morally and ethically tolerable and only within these limits is tolerance truly a practice within reason; but outside of these boundaries, tolerance can easily turn into a blanket justification to the practice of even the most heinous of actions. Is private use of drugs a criminal offense or a moral one? Take your pick, because if its either, then it should not be tolerated, and we just disagree as to how to help people.
In this day and age, there seems to be a misunderstanding as to what tolerance means. While the general populace may know the definitions of tolerance, or it seems that many add a corollary to what tolerance is. Being tolerant of something or someone does not mean that you condone or share beliefs, opinions, or views that you find disagreeable or even abhorrent in relation to your own beliefs. Tolerance involves allowing an opinion or conduct you know is wrong while respecting the individual in the process. We cannot tolerate other individuals or beliefs unless we implicitly disagree with them. We do not “tolerate” those that we agree with, our toleration is reserved for those that differ in what they believe.
The war on drugs is a horrible nightmare, and being tolerant of this war in my view shouldn't be tolerated either, as it has destroyed too many people's lives including children by underhanded criminals, including those in governments. We can all google how W5 exposed when drug lords where let into Canada by the RCMP, by trading passports for cash and favours. How can you win a war that pays its soldiers so well?
Nor do I have to be tolerant with government themselves, who think they can violate our rights. These are the same same government institutions have created the problems of homelessness and by shutting down mental institutions for those with mental illnesses, and letting the continual rampant drug sales in BC carry on with under the table deals.
Socialism has gone off it's rocker.... Just where do they come up with this stuff, in some think tank group that sits around smoking pot?
How many times have we all seen social outcasts thinking they are above the laws, and institutions that act contrary to the laws of the land just encourage this.
One is found in a self refuting situation in which an individual is labeled as intolerant if he judges another’s views as wrong, if there are no objective moral rules, then there can be no rule that demands tolerance. And How far should we tolerate those that disagree with us?
I don't know about you parents out there, but I'm not interested in having drug users around my children, or on my property or seeing them on the streets.
Am I to be tolerant of that too?
So In Victoria this Ad wants us to all believe that being tolerant to drug users on the streets will stop crime and violence. So what are the key questions involved? Programs advocating free drugs and booze, to now being tolerant of drug users. Nice, now I know what government is reduced too. They make a mess of our finances, rip our liberty to shreds, abuse the laws, give special rights to themselves, while its free drugs and booze for everyone. We're all too drunk and stoned to care what they do now! Great plan guys.
There is no dispute that drug addiction is a serious problem and there is no perfect solution to the drug issue. But it also seems indisputable that the war on drugs has been an economically and socially costly mistake. Yes a new approach is needed, involving decriminalization combined with increased funding for drug addiction treatment and education to keep people from becoming addicted to begin with. But the last thing we need is to somehow hear elcted people give the message that drug abuse is something to tolerate.
"Nice people take drugs" trips off the tongue and is easy to remember. And I'm sure I'll find it consoling when I come to my burgled house, my stolen bicycle or my damaged car.
Jon Blair
Sidney
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Victoria shows "nice" attitude over drug ads
By BILL CLEVERLEY and KIM WESTAD,
Times Colonist.com
February 4, 2011
The tagline for a British advertising campaign that caused such uproar it was pulled from London double-decker buses doesn't seem to be drawing the same concern in Victoria, where it's being used to call attention to Anti-Stigma Week.
Victoria city council has declared Feb. 7 to 14 as the city's first ever Anti-Stigma Week in an effort to shine a light on how the stigma surrounding illegal drug use might contribute to addicts not seeking help, said Coun. Philippe Lucas, one of the organizers. The theme of the week is "Drug Use, Dignity and Human Rights," but a tagline appearing on posters by AIDS Vancouver Island to promote the initiative says that "Nice People Take Drugs" — a slogan that has previously been criticized for sending mixed messages about the use of illegal drugs.
The campaign was first launched in Great Britain by humans rights charity Release in 2009, but it proved so controversial the posters were removed from buses. Some critics said the slogan could too easily be misconstrued and misinterpreted, and instead suggested the words "too" or "also" be added.
West Shore RCMP Const. Stew MacMillan, who is a DARE (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) instructor says that the slogan might be "somewhat confusing" for young students who are taught to resist involvement in drugs. "They might think, 'I'm a nice person so I can take drugs.' But, hopefully, they will make their decision based on more than one statement," he said, adding the DARE program teaches tolerance. The tagline could be another opportunity to discuss drug use with children, Victoria school district superintendant John Gaiptman said. "I'm not worried that a student seeing that statement will think, 'Well, it's OK for me to engage in drugs.' I hope that we've done so much drug education that a tagline isn't going to change someone's opinion."
According to AIDS Vancouver Island executive director Katrina Jensen, the intent of anti-stigma week is to remove social barriers that might prevent people from accessing services for drug addiction. "Those people who are having problems with their drug use need our support and they need access to appropriate services," Jensen said. Shaming them doesn't help, she said.
Lucas, who served as executive director of the Vancouver Island Compassion Society before being elected to Victoria council, agrees: "It's an attempt to move us toward a level of acceptance of drug use and addiction as a disease and to move us toward evidence-based policies towards it rather than simply using policies based on fear or moral indignation, which really haven't gotten us very far."
But Rob DeClark, program director at the Cedars residential treatment centre in Cobble Hill, has doubts about the approach. "A lot of behavior that goes along with drug use is shame-inducing and that's often the motivation that happens for people for them to stop — for them to seek help."
kwestad@timescolonist.comw
The Victoria Times Colonist