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Richard Fadden, the director of CSIS, waits to testify at the Commons public safety committee on Parliement Hill in Ottawa on Monday.

Richard Fadden, the director of CSIS, waits to testify at the Commons public safety committee on Parliement Hill in Ottawa on Monday.(Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

Canadian Security Intelligence Service director Richard Fadden says he has no intention of resigning after facing mounting criticism for his candid interview with CBC News in June.

The House of Commons public safety and national intelligence committee reconvened for a rare summer sitting to question Fadden.

During a two-hour grilling, Fadden told the committee that it's "good public policy" for Canadians to be more informed about "foreign interference" threats.

"My comments did not in any way threaten national security," he told the public safety committee regarding his suggestion that some Canadian politicians are being influenced by foreign governments. He added he "would not offer such detail again," but firmly said he stood behind his comments.

'Do I think that everybody needs to go into their basements with an 18-day supply of food? Absolutely not.'—Richard Fadden, CSIS director

The CSIS head was called to the specially convened House of Commons committee session to answer questions about his comments in a CBC News interview that aired last month, just as world leaders began arriving for the G8/G20 summits.

In an exclusive interview with the CBC that aired on June 22, Fadden said foreign governments hold influence over at least two cabinet ministers in two provinces, and are also involved with municipal politicians in B.C. and federal public servants. He did not provide any names, but implied that China was one of those foreign governments.

At committee Monday, Fadden continued to refuse to reveal to whom he was referring and which provinces are involved, citing operational procedure. When opposition MPs on the committee argued that by refusing to do so, he was tainting all politicians, Fadden disagreed, saying the MPs are "exaggerating."

"We are dealing here with a spectrum of behaviour by foreign entities that often start out innocently but later veer toward something that actually harms Canadian interests," he told the committee. "This is a very subtle process."

Fadden told the committee he will name the politicians CSIS is concerned about, but only to the minister to whom he reports. In a statement issued after Fadden's testimony, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said he has no comment, noting that Fadden's testimony speaks for itself.

During the CBC interview, Fadden also said the agency was in the process of discussing with the Privy Council Office the best way to inform the provinces of concern that there may be a problem.

The Prime Minister's Office later issued a statement saying it had "no knowledge of these matters."

Fadden followed up with a "clarification" after the interview aired, saying he had not informed anyone in the PMO or the Privy Council Office, the bureaucratic wing of the PMO, about the specific threats.

Promises report

At committee Monday, Fadden clarified further that he did bring up the cases with the prime minister's national security adviser, seeking advice on how to proceed if CSIS were to find any undue influence on the provincial officials.

Fadden: at the analysis stage.

Fadden: at the analysis stage.
(Adrian Wyld/Canadian Press)

When asked at committee if he thought he should step down as director of CSIS, Fadden said, "I don't agree. I don't think there is a reason to. I revealed one small detail … which as I've said, I regret, but no, I will not be stepping down."

Fadden also testified that since the CBC interview, he has spoken with Public Safety Minister Vic Toews, promising a report on the specific cases to which he referred, once CSIS has completed such a report.

"The information, the intelligence has been gathered. We are now at the analysis stage," Fadden said.

Shortly after the CBC interview aired, experts questioned the wisdom of going public with the allegations while that process is underway.

Committee MPs also questioned Fadden about whether he had the authority to make such revelations.

Fadden said he did in terms of giving out general information, although he also conceded that what he communicated was co-ordinated with the government, but not with the public safety minister.

"If you look at our website, if you look at our annual reports, if you look at a variety of things that both I and other officers of the service have done over the years, this is not quite as extraordinary as everyone is making it out to be," said Fadden.

Fadden first revealed concerns over specific politicians being influenced after a speech to the Royal Canadian Military Institute in March, at which the CBC was filming. Fadden says he "lost track" of the fact that CBC was filming once the question and answer period got started. He said when his comments were brought up in the CBC one-on-one interviews, he felt compelled to answer questions about them.

Committee members grilled him about his choice to bring up such information at a "black tie" event, but while Fadden said he would not do so again, he maintained that the details he did offer were not "state secrets."

In his CBC interview, Fadden also said a big concern was whether there is a terrorist cell in Canada that CSIS doesn't know about. When asked about the comment at committee, Fadden said:

"We have had very clear evidence in this country that there have been terrorists seeking to do harm .… We're monitoring a number of other cases where we think there are similar circumstances. Do I think that everybody needs to go into their basements with an 18-day supply of food? Absolutely not."

Fadden said he simply thinks if Canadians know more about the existence of such a threat, they might be in a position to let CSIS know if they see anything worrisome.

With files from The Canadian Press
 
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Some politicians under foreign sway: CSIS

Last Updated: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 | 12:45 AM ET

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Richard Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, in an exclusive interview with the CBC.
Richard Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, in an exclusive interview with the CBC.(CBC)

Canada's spy agency suspects that cabinet ministers in two provinces are under the control of foreign governments, CBC News has learned.

Several members of B.C. municipal governments are also under suspicion, Richard Fadden, the director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told CBC News in an exclusive interview.

"We're in fact a bit worried in a couple of provinces that we have an indication that there's some political figures who have developed quite an attachment to foreign countries," Fadden said.

"The individual becomes in a position to make decisions that affect the country or the province or a municipality. All of a sudden, decisions aren't taken on the basis of the public good but on the basis of another country's preoccupations."

He said the politicians and public servants see it as a long-standing relationship and have no idea they are being used.

"There are several municipal politicians in British Columbia and in at least two provinces there are ministers of the Crown who we think are under at least the general influence of a foreign government."

Fadden said the agency is in the process of discussing with the Privy Council Office the best way to inform those provinces there may be a problem.

"We'll do the same with the public servants. I'm making this comment because I think it's a real danger that people be totally oblivious to this kind of issue."

Fadden warned that foreign regimes — through universities and social clubs — will develop a relationship with people who have a connection to the homeland.

"You invite somebody back to the homeland. You pay [for] their trips and all of a sudden you discover that when an event is occurring that is of particular interest to country "X," you call up and you ask the person to take a particular view," Fadden said.

At least five countries are surreptitiously recruiting future political prospects in universities, he said. Middle East countries are also involved.

But China is the most aggressive, funding university clubs that are managed by people operating out of the embassy or consulates, Fadden said in a recent speech to Canadian police chiefs and security experts in Toronto.

Chinese authorities also organize demonstrations against the Canadian government in respect to some of Canada's policies concerning China, Fadden said.

"A number of countries take the view that if they can develop influence with people relatively early in their careers, they'll follow them through," Fadden said. "Before you know it, a country is providing them with money, there's some sort of covert guidance."

Fadden said he is concerned that too much of the agency's resources are focused on fighting terrorism and not counter-espionage. That concentration leaves more chances to steal Canada's sensitive technology and trade secrets, worth billions of dollars a year.

"The difficulty I have, as does everybody, is you have to balance where you allocate resources, but it most definitely is as serious problem, and if I had to guess, I'd say it was going to get worse," Fadden said.

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CSIS head defends remarks on foreign influence

Canada's spy chief says Canadians should be informed about the threat that foreign influence represents to the country, arguing that "it is good public policy" to do so.

Richard Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told a House of Commons committee Monday morning that foreign influence "is more common here and elsewhere than many think and it is desirable that this threat should be known and discussed."

The head of CSIS was called before the Standing Committee on Public Safety after he made a series of remarks about foreign interference during a CBC interview that was broadcast last month.

In the June interview, Fadden said that cabinet ministers in at least two provinces were being influenced by foreign governments. He did not specify which provinces he was referring to, although he did say CSIS had suspicions about a number of politicians in British Columbia.

On Monday, Fadden refused to name the B.C. ridings and politicians he referred to in the TV interview.

Fadden said his controversial interview stemmed from a speech he gave at the Royal Canadian Military Institute earlier this year, in which he spoke about the topic of foreign influence.

After the speech, Fadden answered questions, while providing detailed answers "to an audience of police, intelligence and military experts that I would not have provided to the public."

While he knew that TV cameras were recording his speech, Fadden said it was his understanding that the question-and-answer session was not being recorded.

A few months later, Fadden said he was confronted with some of the details from the question-and-answer session.

"I felt I had little choice but to address them in a forthright manner," said Fadden, explaining why the foreign influence topic was discussed during the interview.

"I agree that this was not the optimal way in which to have this matter raised in public and wished it had turned out differently."

Still, Fadden told the committee that the concerns he made public in the interview do not "constitute threats to the security of Canada," which means he has not yet had to inform higher authorities about them. But he said both Public Safety Minister Vic Toews and the Privy Council Office are "generally aware of foreign interference in Canada."

He also told the committee he stands by his "general message on foreign interference."

Furthermore, Fadden said they are not new allegations -- pointing out that CSIS has been investigating such concerns for decades.

"CSIS has been informing successive governments of the threat since its creation -- its last five annual reports have referred to it and Parliament has annually granted funds for us to investigate foreign interference," he said.

With files from The Canadian Press

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CSIS head defends remarks on foreign influence

Updated: Mon Jul. 05 2010 21:09:56

CTV.ca News Staff

Canada's spy chief says Canadians should be informed about the threat that foreign influence represents to the country, arguing that "it is good public policy" to do so.

Richard Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, told a House of Commons committee Monday morning that foreign influence "is more common here and elsewhere than many think and it is desirable that this threat should be known and discussed."

The head of CSIS was called before the Standing Committee on Public Safety after he made a series of remarks about foreign interference during a CBC interview that was broadcast last month.

In the June interview, Fadden said that cabinet ministers in at least two provinces were being influenced by foreign governments. He did not specify which provinces he was referring to, although he did say CSIS had suspicions about a number of politicians in British Columbia.

On Monday, Fadden refused to name the B.C. ridings and politicians he referred to in the TV interview.

Fadden said his controversial interview stemmed from a speech he gave at the Royal Canadian Military Institute earlier this year, in which he spoke about the topic of foreign influence.

After the speech, Fadden answered questions, while providing detailed answers "to an audience of police, intelligence and military experts that I would not have provided to the public."

While he knew that TV cameras were recording his speech, Fadden said it was his understanding that the question-and-answer session was not being recorded.

A few months later, Fadden said he was confronted with some of the details from the question-and-answer session.

"I felt I had little choice but to address them in a forthright manner," said Fadden, explaining why the foreign influence topic was discussed during the interview.

"I agree that this was not the optimal way in which to have this matter raised in public and wished it had turned out differently."

Still, Fadden told the committee that the concerns he made public in the interview do not "constitute threats to the security of Canada," which means he has not yet had to inform higher authorities about them. But he said both Public Safety Minister Vic Toews and the Privy Council Office are "generally aware of foreign interference in Canada."

He also told the committee he stands by his "general message on foreign interference."

Furthermore, Fadden said they are not new allegations -- pointing out that CSIS has been investigating such concerns for decades.

"CSIS has been informing successive governments of the threat since its creation -- its last five annual reports have referred to it and Parliament has annually granted funds for us to investigate foreign interference," he said.

With files from The Canadian Press

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Spy chief defends raising alert over foreign interference

OTTAWA — Canada's embattled spy chief expressed regret Monday for letting slip too many details about intelligence operations, but stood by his assertion that "foreign interference" poses a threat to the nation.

Richard Fadden, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, declared in a recent televised interview that several municipal politicians in British Columbia and cabinet ministers in at least two provinces had fallen under the "general influence" of a foreign government. On Monday, Fadden was called to explain his comments to a special sitting of the House of Commons public safety committee.

"I do not agree with all the criticisms of these remarks, but I regret any distress I might have caused and would not provide such detail again," Fadden told the committee. "Having said this, I stand by my general message on foreign interference — it is a concern and a threat, it is more common here and elsewhere than many think, and it is desirable that this threat should be known and discussed."

Fadden's largely unrepentant testimony renewed calls from the NDP and Bloc Quebecois for his resignation.

"I don't think he gets it," said New Democrat MP Don Davies. "I don't think he understands the hurt that he has caused, and the damage that he's done to the political process in this country."

However, it appears the spy chief's job is safe for now. A spokesman for Prime Minister Stephen Harper said Fadden's testimony "speaks for itself," and Liberal MPs said they were satisfied that Fadden, a respected and experienced federal public servant, had learned from the incident.

Fadden told the committee that, about two years ago, CSIS began monitoring individuals in two separate cases of "foreign interference," which he defined as an attempt by foreign agents to influence the opinion, views and decisions of Canadians "with the aim to obtaining a political, policy or economic advantage."

Unlike traditional diplomacy, such activities are "deceptive in a nature" and run counter to Canada's interests, he said.

CSIS has frequently briefed the federal government on the threat of foreign interference since the agency was created in 1984, said Fadden.

"If you look at our website, if you look at our annual reports, if you look at a variety of things that both I and other officers of the service have done over the years, this is not quite as extraordinary as everyone is making it out to be."

Fadden, who took over as CSIS director in June 2009, said the two cases were brought to his attention late last year. In March, during a question-and-answer session following a speech he gave at a "police appreciation night" held by the Royal Canadian Military Institute, Fadden told the audience that a "by-product of Canada's strong involvement in the world and its very cosmopolitan population is the growing presence of interference by foreign governments."

In particular, he alleged that Chinese government officials regularly infiltrate university campuses and organize demonstrations against the federal government on hot-button issues such as Taiwan.

In making those remarks, Fadden forgot the event was being filmed by CBC Television as part of a special commemorating CSIS' 25th anniversary. When asked about the remarks in an interview with CBC, Fadden made the now controversial comments about municipal and provincial politicians being under foreign sway.

The CSIS director said that for legal reasons, he couldn't name the individuals suspected of being influenced, or what provinces or municipalities they represent.

Fadden said he gave the prime minister's national-security adviser, Marie Lucie-Morin, a "heads up" early this year, during which he raised his concerns about the cases and asked for advice on how to inform the provinces. Fadden added that Public Safety Minister Vic Toews was also "generally aware" of the foreign-interference threat.

But the spy chief said he had yet to directly inform the prime minister, Toews or any provincial government of the specifics of the cases. He said he plans to do so within the next month, once the agency's analysis of the cases is complete.

During a nearly two-hour grilling by the committee, several opposition MPs accused Fadden of tarnishing the reputation of politicians.

"You've discredited many members of the political class, because without naming anyone or any province when you talk about provincial cabinet ministers, you are targeting all ministers and all provinces," said Bloc MP Maria Mourani.

Meanwhile, Conservative MPs on the committee questioned whether Fadden had violated legal provisions of the CSIS Act requiring the agency to keep sensitive intelligence secret.

"I agree that foreign activity in Canada and the rest of the Western world is serious, and I agree that Canadians need to be educated about it, but that does not mean it is the job of CSIS to decide to publish intelligence information," said Conservative MP Dave MacKenzie.

But Fadden said he did not break the law, because the information he disclosed did not pose an immediate threat to national security.

 
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Bilderberg Pushes American Super-State
 
By James P. Tucker Jr.
 
Leaders of Bilderberg have gathered the appropriate flunkies at the Fairmont Le Chateau Montebello, about 50 miles outside Quebec, to accomplish a North American Union without congressional action.
 
Bilderberg met at the same site in 1983. The Aug. 20-21 session of the unknown Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) is struggling to define its goal of a borderless union of the United States, Mexico and Canada as something Americans will welcome, after it has been accomplished.
 
On the agenda is a report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), which is being translated into Spanish and French so all three governments can celebrate it together. The report explains how hemispheric integration will be a blessing for all and not a surrender of sovereignty. It is to be presented to the three governments in September.
 
The trustees of CSIS who are attending this closed meeting include Henry Kissinger, Bilderberg and Trilateral; Zbigniew Brzezinski, Trilateral; and Harold Brown, former defense secretary and Trilateral. Also participating is Richard Armitage, Bilderberg. Other Bilderberg-Trilateralists may be attending but have not been identified.
 
The North American Future 2025 Project report stresses economic integration and labor mobility. It calls for the international migration of labor and international movement not only of goods and capital, but also of people. It stresses the free flow of people across national borders. It calls for action to integrate governments. The three nations are to work on harmonizing legislation and regulations.
 
Bilderberg is fighting back from severe setbacks in its long-range goal of dividing the world into three great regions for the administrative convenience of a world government under the United Nations. The European Union was to have been fully integrated into a single state by 2000, but seven years later, there is strong resistance in France, Germany and Britain.
 
NAFTA was to quickly expand throughout the Western Hemisphere with an American Union emerging. Now, there is great resistance to NAFTA itself among voters and, consequently, congressmen.
 
President Bush started the country on the road to integration on April 22, 2001, when he signed the Declaration of Quebec City in which he made a commitment to hemispheric integration. Participants claim it can be accomplished without legislation and their final agreement would not be a treaty requiring Senate ratification.
 
But when this agreement is sprung on the American people, Congress will feel compelled to react to the outrage.
 
(Issue #35, August 27, 2007)